by Kathy Krajco
Religion, especially Christianity, can be sharply criticized for making us feel that we must put up with abuse. That we must forgive even ongoing and unrepented offenses = that we must dociley submit to abuse. As though there is some virtue in victimhood.

I am amazed at the disconnect between the actual theology and what we hear in the preaching, whether from the pulpet or from “religious” people telling us what we should do and how we should feel.
For the most part, the actual theology is enlightening and sensible. But on the lips of preachers it gets warped, almost beyond recognition in places. And it DEFIES common sense.
In my opinion, whenever it is being promulgated for show, watch out. That show is either to sell it or to sell the preacher. In that case, what matters is what seems. Not truth and reality.
I discovered Christian theology upon reading Dante’s Divine Comedy. That piqued my interest in this fascinating body of thought, so I made it my business to find out what my relgion actually taught.
It was nothing like what I heard on Sunday. For the most part, what we hear on Sunday from the majority of preachers is half-baked. It betrays an amazing lack of understanding. A childish lack of depth in understanding. The result is a picture of Jesus as some long-suffering wimp who chose to sacrifice himself to abuse and whom we’re supposed to emulate.
But show me a parable of his that says so. Those parables are nothing but brilliant studies in practical common sense, so where did all that anti-common-sense stuff come from?
Sell copy is just sell copy. It must never tax the prospective customer with the need to think. And religion put on for show is shallow as a puddle too.
In fact, if you check it out, you’ll find much preaching today contradicts established doctrine and what people like St. Augustan, St. Thomas Aquinas, and even Jesus himself said. Unfortunately, few know enough about their religion to notice that these days.
For example, take the Christian teaching that punishing an innocent scapegoat for our sins saves us from them. That’s what Christianity on this point has been reduced to – a sound bite, the buzzword that “punishing the innocent scapegoat has saved us from our sins.”
But how? How could that be, of all things, God’s justice? What kind of god would consider that justice? It’s a travesty of justice that dooms those who commit it and saves only those so shamed by it that they stop committing it.
Understanding that would require some explaining and mature thinking, but marketers know better than to try to sell anything that way: so it’s easier just to believe the doctrine backwards instead.
Similarly, when did “God forgive them” come to mean “I forgive them”? Likewise, how is God praised and honored by your letting others trash what he has made? Didn’t he make you too? Then how is he praised or honored by your letting a narcissist trash you?
Common sense, common sense, common sense has gone out the window and virtually made the ultimate good, justice, an evil thing in the heads of the simple-minded. This HURTS the victims of narcissists.
And recent scholarly research on the oldest extant scriptural documents (including the NT), when they were actually written, how apocryphal they all are, how frequently the passages contradict each other, how many passages have gone through so many translations of translations of ancient language that they now amount to gibberish, how often and by how many hands they have been edited over time – all this should sink in already. Where in the Bible does the Bible claim to be authored by God?
Result? Which blurb do you cherry-pick when trying to sound holy? “An eye for an eye” or “Turn the other cheek”?
As a consequence, many victims of narcissists become embittered at religion because of how it made them feel morally obligated to submit to abuse = to give the narcissist permission to abuse them.
So, whose side is religion on? Self-righteous holier-than-thous sound holy by using religion to pile on the victim playing the part of Job’s Comforters and denying the victim’s right to do anything to make the abuser stop it. Anything. They even make it sound evil for the victim to just abandon or divorce the abuser! In other words, they use religion to commit the Sin of Sodom = making the victim bend over for abuse.
In a way, it’s a bad rap, because Christian theology isn’t really that ridiculous. In fact, even I will say that there is much truth and wisdom in it. But what preachers and holier-than-thous make of it – THAT is a different matter. THAT is garbage.
Then religious leaders wonder why they lose adherants. The blame is not with “society these days.” The blame is with THEM. They should do something about the warping of the message, because it’s their own fault people find it unacceptable and turn away.
http://narc-attack.blogspot.com/2008/02/religion-and-victimhood.html




Hello..
I wish I had found this before. I was raised as a sort of Christian, but got far away from it. Contempt for this religion, all religions was my mainstay.
I too, was confused with this ‘forgiveness’ issue…and even went over to Judaism to try to understand what this was and how ‘it’ applied to my particular narcissist. There were a couple of them, but one in particular of recent experience.
It doesn’t. Forgiveness is for the self in these cases, because as an Orthodox Jew told me: “Has he asked for forgiveness? No. Then forgiveness is not only inappropriate, but will cement his behavior in him and others.”
Forgiveness is for the self, because in most cases, we walked into the traps these cyberpaths set. And they DO set them. Mine was a Dominant, a BDSMer….and I didn’t know in the beginning the depth of his extremism here. Later I did, and that is where forgiveness of self comes in. I was (or thought I was) emotionally trapped. I had done exactly what he wanted, desired, and expected: I had abdicated all commonsense and tried to ‘please’ this monster. It took me two years (and this was all internet/phone and ONE meeting at the very end) to escape and it wasn’t pretty. He did all the things of public exposure (blog), trying to destroy my reputation, etc.
The only thing I have to forgive is myself. It is NOT applicable to him because he continues to do this to others and there is nothing to stop him. Forgiveness does not apply to this person.
Whatever it was in me that made me pliable to his handling of me, and I did buy and ready “Women Who Love Psychopaths”….I have learned and I am far away from him and these men. And some women.
But it was a very painful, almost destroying my will to continue to live: and when I realized that, and finally cared enough about myself and those around me, when I realized that my selfish desire to end it, well, that’s when I started to live again.
Christianity is not the issue or the blame. It’s again, as you say, the sentiments, the words in the mouth of the preachers and their handmaidens. Forgiveness doesn’t apply to these Nazis.
Lady Nyo and proud that she is STILL Lady Nyo.